the best i can remember, 31" & 29" no, im not in pic Bob. these customers were staying in town and came down to marina,they had never been on lake erie before. the school of steelheads were 2miles long x 500 yrds wide,as i was trolling the were jumping out of the water infront of me. i lost 7 behind the boat. i sucked at catching them walleye that day,i was glad when i found this school, but they had fun.